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1. 

   Mohamed

   September 27, 2009

   @James: Frankly I expected a more meaty rebuttal to all that was discussed… nevertheless. In Islam we respect and revere the elders, especially the ones who are old. We always factor them in Shura. If you were in our environment, you wouldn’t even spend the time convincing us of the importance of elders and the value of their experience.

   Your advice from an older post:

   I trust nothing outside my own experience

   … and the new one:

   “Our Shura: Stick to FACTS that you have witnessed yourself”

   I really love taking advice, but your advice is a self-defeating proposition or a logical fallacy. i.e. Your advice is preventing me from taking your advice. Think about it.

   “The winners write the history books”

   In what context is this? If it is about current affairs, have you decided who the winner is already?

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   James Killian Spratt

   September 25, 2009

   @Shakir: Yeah, I know. Changing times and a long future can be scary to the young, and they overrun sometimes trying to get a handle on it. Weren’t we the same way? How did you do during the Cold War, with the threat of the world ending any old day, for forty frigging years?

   @Youngsters: Enjoy yourselves, and have a little Faith. We’re looking out for you, and your turn will gradually come.

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3. 

   Shakir Lakhani

   September 25, 2009

   @ James: “…..remember that one day, you, too, will be old and experienced”. Some people think they don’t need any experience because they think they already know everything.

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4. 

   James Killian Spratt

   September 25, 2009

   @Mohamed: “Come on! We know who the aggressor is…”

   No, you don’t and neither do I.

   The winners write the history books.

   I don’t care what Marilyn Mornington thinks or does.

   @Momina, too: Our Shura: Stick to FACTS that you have witnessed yourself, and remember that one day, you, too, will be old and experienced. You’ll see.

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5. 

   Momina

   September 17, 2009

   @SL: This was expected but the post of Hijaab: The Veil is My Pride clearly has it that some people with twisted brains consider the veil as a political statement. So, it is not a purely Western opinion rather a purely bigoted opinion.

   By the by, Sarkozy would obviously considered modest women as caged considering how ‘liberal’ his new wife has been…

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6. 

   Shakir Lakhani

   September 16, 2009

   For a Western opinion of the veil, read “The politics of the veil” by Robert Fulford (http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/tags/Robert+Fulford/default.aspx).

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7. 

   Momina

   September 16, 2009

   HE

   Glad the matter is clear to you and hopefully to others as well.

   You observed correctly. The reasons simply are: considering one is liberal/modern/accepted globally when they ‘reveal’ themselves or lack of Islamic knowledge. The love of this world usually destroys the Hereafter of the person. Allaho ‘Aalam.

   The liberal part reminded me that Americans (Democratic politicians, at least) no longer want to be known as liberal – poor political strategies have become synonymous with it…

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8. 

   Shakir Lakhani

   September 16, 2009

   I remember an airport scene in Jeddah when I and my wife were going to Turkey and the U.K. after performing Umrah in 1993. The burqa is compulsory in Saudi Arabia, although my wife wasn’t censored at all for wearing the shalwar kameez with a chador throughout our ten-day visit. A stunningly pretty Arab girl threw away her black burqa immediately after she entered the departure lounge. It was obvious that she hated wearing it, maybe because she’d been wearing it for a long time in the hot weather outside the airport and had sweated a lot.

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9. 

   Hend

   September 16, 2009

   MO
   Thanks. From your answer it is clear that the requirement is to cover the face too maybe except the eyes.

   I asked because I saw and met many Muslims in India, Europe, Iran and USA who follow different practices.

   For example,
   – The Mumbai muslims (since I don’t know enough about India) are of two types those who use burqa (less common) and those who don’t use anything not even a head scarf (more common).
   – Iranians in Iran: as per govt requirements.
   – Iranians in continental Europe and USA: Persians seem to not follow anything but other Iranians wear the headscarf mostly (with coat/ jeans etc.) and burqa in some cases.
   – Same case as Iranians with Syrians or levant Arabs.
   – Lebanese, head scarf or none.
   – Moroccans, Algerians in continental Europe – head scarf.
   – Pakistanis, mostly head scarf and sometimes burqa.

   This is just a general observation based on people I met but then I don’t claim to have gone to every possible locality so its not possible to be accurate.

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10. 

    Momina

    September 16, 2009

    @Br. Mohamed: Barakallaaho feek! A very articulate and enlightening comment and true to its core.

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