Why Indians and Pakistanis fight each other and how to bridge the gap?

In the comments section of every blog and youtube video, and in chatrooms, I notice something in common. There is always a war on between an Indian and a Pakistani. Although comments stay within limits on blogs, chatrooms and the comments section in youtube is filled with all kinds of vulgarities and the filthiest, most abusive language you can imagine.

On blogs, Muslims have nothing better to do than call Hindus cow worshippers and Hindus have nothing better to do than call Islam an oppressive religion. On youtube and in chatrooms, well, I don’t even want to talk about it.

There are so many similarities that I sometimes wonder what Hindus and Muslims fight about. Both India and Pakistan have corrupt leaders, eve teasers, black magicians, fraud, corruption, prostitution, AIDS, beggars, poverty, rich misers, backbiters, murderers, rapists, honor killings, dowry customs, wife beaters, child abusers…phew!

What are we fighting about?

Hey, I forgot one similarity. That of the after effects of an India-Pakistan cricket match. When Pakistan wins, Indians break their TV sets. When India wins, Pakistanis break their TV sets. I was wondering what happens if an Indian is married to a Pakistani. In such a case, regardless of who wins, the TV set will end broken!


55 thoughts on “Why Indians and Pakistanis fight each other and how to bridge the gap?”

  1. On the Tamil problem in Sri Lanka I agree with Hend a hundred percent, and was very certain, when LTTE was crushed that this problem will relapse again in the future hitting the Sinhalese in the face again.

    This is because the Sinhalese do not have a plan and the willingness to implement one, of integrating Tamils into the mainstream. As long as injustice remains, rebellion will not go away.

    The prophet of Allah may peace & blessings of Allah be on him said, a nation (or society) declines when injustice prevails. Allah blesses nations (Muslim or Non-Muslim) as long as largely justice prevails, this is the sunnah (law) of Allah. When largely justice system starts failing, other corruption become common, eventually the society fails and falls into the hands of those who can do better job than the previous ones. This law of Allah is irrespective of the religion of the people, whether Muslim or Non-Muslim:

    But nay! I swear by the Lord of all (the three hundred and sixty) points of sunrise and sunset in the east and the west that surely We are able to Substitute them for better (people) than they; And We are not to be defeated (in Our Plan).
    Translation of the Glorious Qur’an 70:40-41

    O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or you’re near relatives, and whether it be against rich or poor. For Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve (from doing justice), and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, surely Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do.
    Translation of the Glorious Qur’an 4:135

    If Allah were to punish men according to what they deserve. He would not leave on the back of the (earth) a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: when their Term expires, verily Allah has in His sight all His Servants.
    Translation of the Glorious Qur’an – 35:43-45

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  2. either way, we dont need friendship with india

    we have nothing to gain from capitulating and extending hand of friendship. indians are back-stabbers and two-faced people.
    There are exceptions of course

    we have seen their behaviour in past year or so. Neither the environment nor the present realities are conducive for any sort of “composite dialogue”

    of course that can change when both sides allow Kashmiris to seek their existential right to self determination and the area is de-militarized.

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  3. SL

    You just picked a sentence selective when the whole point I am making is both countries are doing it. Anyway I think you got the point but are just trying to win an argument. Chill.

    Lt.Gen.

    Whether India is supporting terrorists is a matter of conjecture and I am quite open minded to accept the possibility but only because I am convinced that this is a old game between the two countries, it is not one way street. We the people of both countries need to realize that it is not going to stop unless both countries change their mindsets. This will require giving up long held political postures and demands on both sides. Without a compromise this will not change and it will happen when the value of it goes above the value of conflict.

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  4. @ Hend:”it is highly possbile that India is using these to forment trouble in Pakistan, Sindh and Balochistan”. So that ends the argument. This is what we’ve been trying to convince you and other Indians (that India is supporting terrorists in Pakistan). By extension, why would India refrain from giving money to the Taliban (even though they’re not friendly with each other)? Haven’t you heard the saying, “My enemy’s enemy is my friend”? Since both the Taliban and India have a common aim (to destabilize Pakistan), why should we not assume that India is helping the Taliban financially?

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  5. afghan taleban and “ttp” are 2 different entities. The latter has declared war against Pakistani state and civilians.

    indians are also supporting criminals in Baluchestan via its “consullates” in Afghanistan

    we are forgiving people in Pakistan, but we will never tolerate enemies trying to damage our country

    that’s a promise.

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  6. Hend, with Friday having arrived — I can assure you that I am in good spirits, despite the hectic work schedule.

    I have family in Kurram Agency which has seeing some of the fighting, though it has been spared mostly because our tribesmen have never made it safe for anti-state elements to hide there.

    I am for a multi-pronged approach towards combatting militancy. Not just by military means alone. But the conflict in Pakistan is much different from the conflict that was taking place in Sri Lanka.

    We can go into further detail if you desire.

    Oh by the way, I live in Peshawar. Not Lahore.

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  7. SL

    Your reply is speculative, I would like a more concrete response from Lt.Gen.

    The allegation is that Taliban is backed by India so the question is simple, is there an alliance between India and Taliban? If so, explain how and why it happens when these two are supposed to be enemies of each other.

    What you have mentioned is more of a mercenary scenario based on money but does not indicate a direct alliance.

    Lastly I will reply to your question about the Indian consulates for the Nth time.

    Pakistan and India both regard Afghanistan strategically. One might say that Pakistan has misused Afghanistan more than India but let us not get into those things. Simple answer is whether India has 13 consulates or 100 is none of Pakistan’s business, it is a purely bilateral issue between Indian and Afghanistan but yes it is highly possbile that India is using these to forment trouble in Pakistan, Sindh and Balochistan.

    None of us should be surprised that Indian and Pakistani intelligence agencies are fully active against each other. Using un-uniformed militia, insurgents, funding terrorists, allowing training camps to exist, allowing terrorist organizations to function, not taking action against them, all these are part of what ISI and RAW activities and part of each other’s foreign policies.

    Having said this, is it good? No but if both countries are doing it then you should be to first ask yourself, your government and your military whether this game should continue, if the answer is yes then ofcourse it will continue from the other side too. So please do not feign ignorance for the N+1 time.

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  8. @ Hens: India has thirteen consulates in Afghanistan (a country with which it does not share a border). Nor does Afghanistan have a large Indian-origin population (like, for instance, Mauritius or Fiji). So why so many consulates? And why does India need to pump 1.67 billion dollars every year into Afghanistan (despite 836 million Indians trying to survive on forty U.S. cents a day?). Obviously, part of the aid to Afghanistan is meant to destabilize Pakistan. I can only surmise how it’s done. I assume there are several intermediaries between the consulate staff and the terrorists. It’s like telling the mafia to kill someone (without caring how it’s done or who does it). Give the money to a mafia representative who in turn gives it to someone else, and so on and on, until the suicide bomber gets his payment before blowing people up.

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  9. Lt.Gen

    You seem very unhappy, upset and hateful all the time 😉 take it easy ol’ boy. We are talking of fellow humans…cheer up.

    We both agree when it comes to acting against anti-state elements but we probably differ on the method. I feel the methods adopted should not cause huge collateral damage to the population, not only it is wrong but will have more anti-state effect in the future. You may be originally from the tribal areas but you live in Lahore. If you were actually living in the affected areas in Pakistan or Sri Lanka and if the bombs were falling around you and your family then I am sure your views would be vastly different.

    Terrorists can spread to all areas and soon you would have to decide whether to bomb the whole country.

    The point I am trying to make is, aerial bombing of any areas and specially those occupied by minorities is seen as genocide. Anyone doing it or being a part of it needs to be very careful about the ethics and aftereffects of it.

    Most Indians are under the impression that Taliban is an enemy of India and India helping Taliban is not possible. Could you please elaborate your view and throw some light on the alleged nexus between the two…how it is possible or taking place and why and if there is any evidence etc.

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