Why Indians and Pakistanis fight each other and how to bridge the gap?

In the comments section of every blog and youtube video, and in chatrooms, I notice something in common. There is always a war on between an Indian and a Pakistani. Although comments stay within limits on blogs, chatrooms and the comments section in youtube is filled with all kinds of vulgarities and the filthiest, most abusive language you can imagine.

On blogs, Muslims have nothing better to do than call Hindus cow worshippers and Hindus have nothing better to do than call Islam an oppressive religion. On youtube and in chatrooms, well, I don’t even want to talk about it.

There are so many similarities that I sometimes wonder what Hindus and Muslims fight about. Both India and Pakistan have corrupt leaders, eve teasers, black magicians, fraud, corruption, prostitution, AIDS, beggars, poverty, rich misers, backbiters, murderers, rapists, honor killings, dowry customs, wife beaters, child abusers…phew!

What are we fighting about?

Hey, I forgot one similarity. That of the after effects of an India-Pakistan cricket match. When Pakistan wins, Indians break their TV sets. When India wins, Pakistanis break their TV sets. I was wondering what happens if an Indian is married to a Pakistani. In such a case, regardless of who wins, the TV set will end broken!

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November 12, 2009

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Mohammad Yusha

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55 responses to “Why Indians and Pakistanis fight each other and how to bridge the gap?”

Lt. General Ayub Khan

November 19, 2009

Hend – as an ethnic Pashtun — i would say I support the Armed Forces hitting any anti-state elements wherever they are hiding

whether its Jandola or Southern Punjab.

there will be peace when all the foreign militants are gone….and also when US forces withdraw from Afghanstan.

this cannot be won only by military means. I am from these tribal areas. These are patriotic Pakistanis, but not enough investment in them is the problem.

other problem is these goddam filthy indians……they are also arming anti state elements. But now fortifications and counters are in place.

its only a matter of time

😉 😉

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Hend

November 17, 2009

Lt.Gen

Agreed that Taliban is bad but would you support aerial bombing of Pashtun populated areas just to defeat the Taliban? I would not, the collateral damage will be huge, its a crime against humanity.

The only way and the right way is ground offensive, though hard and more military casualties.

Strategically aerial bombing will turn a large population against their own govt and country specially in a multi ethnic multi cultural country.

When a foreign country takes part in a local ethnic conflict, they are taking sides which can have long term negative effects. Treating 4 million Tamils as terrorists will not strengthen SL in the long term, it will ruin the reconciliation process.

We already have such bad history in this sub continent and that is why there is so much enmity between different ethnicities, there is no need to create more. I hope you are getting my point, it is not about LTTE or winning, it is about population.

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Hend

November 17, 2009

SL Lt.Gen

Which elements in India are you talking about supporting LTTE? Some rogue anti-India and anti-Hindu people like vaiko and Karunanidhi? If LTTE had succeeded in dividing SL then that would have weakened India and dravid oriented Tamilnadu elements would have started the same in India.

India is actually benefitting from defeat of LTTE without having to do the real dirty work and giving political advantage to Tamil politicians. Read comments of Vaiko and Karunanidhi, hopefully you will gain some more incite about their anti-India and anti-Hindu stance, they were theo nly elements sympathetic to LTTE.

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Hend

November 17, 2009

SL

My experience in Madras should not be taken as an example of how Tamils always behave. No. They are regarded as among the most brilliant brains in the world. The Indian Tamils are highly educated, no doubt. Maybe the way they treat outsiders in Madras is because of the way Hindi speaking north always tried to impose their language and culture on non Hindi people. I don’t hold any grudges. I have the highest love and respect for them.

Tibet by no stretch of imagination is part of China, please get this right. China is in illegal occupation of Tibet. The question of Arunachal does not arise at all.

You mentioned India bombing civilian areas in an Indo-Pak war. You actually vindicate my point. You can do aerial bombing in a WAR. BUT a country is never supposed to use aerial bombing on its own civilians, never. Use of largescale bombing of civilian areas against Tamils is clearly a care of genocide. I hope you understand the difference. There the help from China and Pakistan in doing this is fundamentally immoral.

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Hend

November 17, 2009

Lt.Gen

SL are you friends and that should mean all Sri Lankans including Tamil population. No one is doubting LTTE was bad.

My argument is against the method used by aerial bombing of civilian areas of poor people.

Supply of war planes, bombs and pilots was obviously to carry out a genocide of ethnic Tamilians.

Even now millions of their own citizen Tamilians are in prison camps, every Tamil is a suspected LTTE according to SL govt and SL has 18% population as Tamils. What kind of govt SL has which holds such a large population as prisoners?….almost the same percentage as Muslims in India.

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confused indian

November 17, 2009

@ Lt. General Ayub Khan,

you are reminding me niazi’s rhetoric before kicked by indian generals and subsequently surrendering to india.

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Shakir Lakhani

November 17, 2009

Hend: you say, “Though even India accepted that Tibet is a part of China”, so why should I object to Chinese “occupation” of Tibet. Arunachal Pradesh is presently occupied by India because the British decided it (just as Mountbatten gave away Kashmir to India). And even though China penetrated deep into India (including Arunachal Pradesh), they withdrew because India suddenly turned to the U.S. for help (despite its long-standing policy of non-alignment).
Sri Lanka: it’s well-known that India supported the Tamil Tigers initially (and Tamil politicians of India still do), so Sri Lanka was compelled to turn to China and Pakistan for help. As for not bombing civilian areas, India has done it when it attacked Pakistan in 1965 & 1971 (I escaped death by inches in the war of 1971).

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Shakir Lakhani

November 17, 2009

@ Hend: I always thought South Indians (especially Madrasis) were different from those who live in other parts of India. In Karachi there are thousands of people whose parents came here from India. I had a boss who was from Madras and he was a genius (this was in 1969). He told me that the people of Madras are more educated than other Indians, they are gentler and help anyone who needs assistance. But judging from your experience, it seems he was wrong.

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Lt. General Ayub Khan

November 17, 2009

The Sri Lankans are our brothers….always have been, always will be. We love them.

Their enemy is our enemy. And it was elements in india (govt, military, civilian) which was arming the LTTE. There is documented proof on this.

The LTTE has terrorized Sri Lankan island for 25 bloody years.

india used to get extremely irritated that Sri Lankans were buying Pakistani and Chinese military equipment. We were sending 3-4 ships (on emergency basis) to Sri Lanka –full with defence equipments which came in handy for their fight against tamil terrorists.

indian army chief even threatened sri lanka to stop taking cooperation from Pakistan — but Sri Lanka (and Pakistan) were pointing at indians and laughing at them to their faces.

It is silly to compare taleban to LTTE. LTTE was an ethnic insurgency. ttp are merely just indian/anti-Pakistan funded militants. We are having the upper hand against them, though they are killing our women and children.

Like i said, the enemy of our friend is also our enemy. And by God, we will always stand by Sri Lanka.

Inshallah, ttp militants (regardless of their nationality) will join LTTE terrorists

at the bottom of the indian bloody ocean……

food for the fish!

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Hend

November 17, 2009

Lt.Gen

“Yes Hend. I am proud of the fact that they are drowned in Indian Ocean.
in fact, i wish i could have participated too.”

Long time ago, I had to visit Madras seven times for some business. By my last visit I was completely fed up. Fed up of the food, the place and the Tamil people. Since I looked different, the attitude was different.

Once I met a guy from Rajasthan who was so fed up of the food, he said “Arre hum jiz cheez ki sabzi banate hai uss cheez ki yeh log daal banate hai aur jiss cheezki hum daal banate hai uski yeh log sabzi banate hai”.

Business was ok but going out was difficult, people were not so helpful if you don’t look or speak Tamil. On more than one occasion people walked away or gave wrong directions. I don’t have positive opinion on Madras.

I read somewhere that the Sinhala people of SL are a genetic cross between Tamils and Bengalis…but about 65% Tamil blood and 25% Bengali…basically they are also “those dravidian black tamil sons of * ” in your words.

Ok now back to your comment….why?

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