Why Indians and Pakistanis fight each other and how to bridge the gap?

In the comments section of every blog and youtube video, and in chatrooms, I notice something in common. There is always a war on between an Indian and a Pakistani. Although comments stay within limits on blogs, chatrooms and the comments section in youtube is filled with all kinds of vulgarities and the filthiest, most abusive language you can imagine.

On blogs, Muslims have nothing better to do than call Hindus cow worshippers and Hindus have nothing better to do than call Islam an oppressive religion. On youtube and in chatrooms, well, I don’t even want to talk about it.

There are so many similarities that I sometimes wonder what Hindus and Muslims fight about. Both India and Pakistan have corrupt leaders, eve teasers, black magicians, fraud, corruption, prostitution, AIDS, beggars, poverty, rich misers, backbiters, murderers, rapists, honor killings, dowry customs, wife beaters, child abusers…phew!

What are we fighting about?

Hey, I forgot one similarity. That of the after effects of an India-Pakistan cricket match. When Pakistan wins, Indians break their TV sets. When India wins, Pakistanis break their TV sets. I was wondering what happens if an Indian is married to a Pakistani. In such a case, regardless of who wins, the TV set will end broken!

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November 12, 2009

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Mohammad Yusha

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55 responses to “Why Indians and Pakistanis fight each other and how to bridge the gap?”

Hend

November 17, 2009

Abbasi

In the 80s, Rajeev had hosted a mediation between SL-Jayawardene and LTTE-Prabhakar after which he placed Prabhakaran under virtual arrest and put pressure on him to sign an accord. After this India placed the IPKF forces in SL against the LTTE. Prabhakar took revenge by blowing Rajeev and Congress became even more anti-LTTE.

India was always against LTTE. Do not confuse some LTTE sympathizing comments out of Tamilnadu as Indian position. Those comments are for local consumption in TN where Tamil nationalism is always very strong.

What India had to balance was their support for SL govt with ensuring that there was no largescale genocide. The reluctunce to help SL with ‘large’ weapons was because those would be used against the civilians. THIS exactly is what the SL government of Rajapakse brothers did.

According to me whether you are Pakistani or Indian or anyone else, finally we have to remember that what they did was complete murder of civilians. You know what happens when a few drones are used in FATA, this was a no holds barred all out military assault on a civilian areas of the poorest segment of their country who live in kachcha houses, huts and dilapidated homes. An entire poverty stricken population treated like enemy in order to defeat a few LTTE?

Put yourself in their shoes and think.

Unfortunately the media in India, Pak and SL have completely ignored these aspects and toed their respective government lines…shame.

You might be right in saying that the next target of Tamil nationalism would have been Tamilnadu. True, the word used by LTTE ‘Elam’ when used in a broad sense includes not just Tamils but all the related ethnic groups from SL right up to Iraq like Brahvis and Elamites too.

That being said, we must not allow our fears, our greed or our frienships to compromize our judgment.

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Lt. General Ayub Khan

November 17, 2009

Yes Hend. I am proud of the fact that they are drowned in Indian Ocean.

in fact, i wish i could have participated too.

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Hend

November 16, 2009

Lt.Gen.

I am oppose terrorist groups like LTTE but I think I know when I see right from wrong. The majority of Tamils in SL are probably the poorest and labourer class.

Sri Lanka has barely 4 million Tamils and nearly all of them are in concentration camp like conditions. Their hutments/ houses were bombarded by SL govt and Pakistani pilots in Pakistani supplied planes, you are proud of what???

Are you confusing SL Tamils with Indians? Was it a war between India and Pakistan?

I am wondering if your last statement would have been the same if these civilians were largely Muslims. What is your quarrel with SL Tamils in being so low and personal?

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Hamid Majid Abbasi

November 16, 2009

@general & shakir
indians ditched tamils in d middle for the fear that after their triumph the next demand will b of free tamil land in india also(tamil nadu)……………..

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Lt. General Ayub Khan

November 16, 2009

indians supported LTTE

we provided defence equipments (including tanks, POF ammunition, mortar bombs, artillery shells, air craft, anti aircraft ammunition, and PAFs J-7PG pilots)

so these confused 1.3 billion indians should sit down and put their heads down in defeated fashion.

those dravidian black tamil sons of ***** are all on the floor of indian ocean =)

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Hend

November 16, 2009

Shakir sahab

I will try to address some of the comments made by you.

I don’t want to go into the Kashmir issue obviously because it will be a never ending debate but I will actually go into two other things which for me are more interesting. Sri Lankan Tamil issue and the Arunachal issue because it is linked to Tibet.

Let me make it clear at the onset that my opinion is not the same as that of the Indian government.

Sri Lanka
It appears to me that you are not fully versed with the history of the conflict there because your position simply draws satisfaction and pride from the fact that Pakistan helped Sri Lanka with arms.

This is not so simple as there is a long history about why it happened in the first place, which I recommend you read and then decide who is right or wrong. India did not help Sri Lankan Tamils, India in fact backed the their government. India placed Prabhakaran in a virtual house arrest to make him sign a one sided accord with Jayewardene. This resulted in their taking the revenge on Rajeev Gandhi and which resulted in LTTE becoming a sworn enemy of India. However the point I am about to make is not about all this.

According to me the arms help by China and Pakistan to Rajapakse government was fundamentally immoral because Rajapakse brothers (murderers) engaged in aerial bombing of civilian areas. Remember here that India too has many insurgencies all accross but never, I repeat never has there been an aerial bombing of civilian areas. According to the UN conventions, arerial bombing is closer to genocide and a genocide results in giving a population the right to demand a separate country. If this is all too heavy for you, I am sorry but this is the way it is. After their so called victory the Srilankan government has placed almost 4 million Tamils in prison camps thus committing probably the worst human rights violations in decades. When some western countries tried to drag or condemn Sri Lanka for crimes against humanity, the immoral and greed driven countries of Asia including India, Pakistan and China foiled their attempts.

By the way purported difference of opinion between India and Sri Lanka was based on supply of heavy arms which India refused to do not because India was pro LTTE but because of fear of those being used against civilian population which is what ultimately happened.

I am not surprised that China exploited this opportunity by supplying fighter planes and ammunition in return for building a port. Chinese are not known for their conscience…they are modern day evil.

I suggest you form your own opinion based on your conscience and faith religion and God, I leave it to you.

Tibet/ Arunachal
I am actually surprised that you support China in this because if anything, Tibet is a far simpler case for liberation than Kashmir.

Do read the history of Tibet and the basis of Chinese claims. Though even India accepted that Tiber is a part of China, fundamentally it is an illegal occupation simply based on imperial claims.

The closest analogy I can come up is, Obama claiming Iraq to be a part of USA because it was ruled in the past by G.W.Bush, and then Obama claiming Pakhtunkhwa parts of Pakistan because they are kind of ‘east Afghanistan’.

The communist Chinese claim on Tibet is in short above and their claim on Arunachal is like the Pakhtunkhwa example.

On one hand you have the Kashmir example which is far more complex but on the other hand you turn accept the Chinese claim on Tibet which is as simple an example you can get of illegal occupation as you can get. I can understand that China is a friend of Pakistan and your government has to agree with the Chinese policies but I think on a personal level you need to go more with your conscience and sense of justice.

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Hamid Majid Abbasi

November 16, 2009

@confused
ur comander to end d game for pakistan………..hehe dats wat we have heard…….I mean dats d furstration when many time smaller enemy gets into ur nerves………..happens its natural……..
u lost impatience in 98 though u were intrested in “Dil Se” back than………after exploding nuclear devices it seemed that we were counting our days…………hehe only to start a roll back very soon…….
nd kasab………..well ur media was aware of him nd his village even before the showdown in taj ended………..ofcourse in d league of “gustapos” pakistani cannot surpass u……….
nd yeah……….we have a practical disaster initiated in our land by outside forces as i write dis……….b careful dat americans r very gud at adopting stray souls……….bt a repay time is around the corner…….
amen

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confused indian

November 16, 2009

@ skakir,

so you have relatives in nepal, srilanka and bangladesh too!

what they do? repair motorcycle? collect kabad? teach in madarsha? print fake indian currency? or do hawala transaction?

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confused indian

November 16, 2009

@ hamid

pick up few point from your comment, which i would like to explain.

first about tolrance, we have tolrated are tolrating too much. from 80s sikh edisode to mumbai carnage. and indian HM and army chief are just showing indians impatience by saying that mumbai is just beginning of end game for pakistan. ( i am hearing word amen)

how about comparing sarabit (only catch for pakistan) and ajmal kasab (just one of them).
do you know where they are caught, how they are caught, what they were possessing, what they have done. to enlighten chowrangi readers that ajmal was caught red handed (even have cctv footage) killing innocent people in india’s financial capital called mumbai, circa 29 november 2008.

and sarabjit was caught in india-pak border with ??? (can’t find information), circa august 1990. even key witness retracts statement.

u can cry for 26/11 and we can give u a whole dictionary of dis
defy your PM and show evidence like kasab.

sorry to say, when time comes pakistani who level false charges, hide in a bunker saving themselves. skakir hasn’t responded on hindu conversion, not even produce that lost article. lt. gen. even don’t know what kashmir issue is? but they will again post same matter, thinks that chowrangi readers are moron, but we are not.

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Shakir Lakhani

November 16, 2009

@ confused: India has admitted supporting Tamil Tigers and also interfering in Sri Lankan affairs (Pakistan gave weapons to Sri Lanka to fight the rebels). The people of Nepal hate India more than Pakistanis do. If you don’t agree, go to Nepal and find out for yourself. With Bangladesh, it’s the same old problem: river water diversion by India. Whenever there’s a cricket match between India and Pakistan in Bangladesh, the crowd always cheers for Pakistan. Right now, the Bangladesh Government may be allies of India (but the people hate India).

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