People have already started talking about the expected indo-pak war. I came across a number of people in the past two days, who are scared to death because they fear that India might attack Pakistan. Is war the only solution? India thinks that Pakistanis are involved in the Mumbai terrorist attacks. Many such people, who call themselves Pakistanis, are killing their own brothers in Pakistan.
These terrorists are not Pakistanis. They are not Muslims. They are not even humans. These are insane people who are snatching away the lives of innocent people in the name of Islam. How can India even think of attacking Pakistan when Pakistan itself is not a safe haven for its very own people? Being a Pakistani, I can unquestionably say that Pakistan doesnâ€™t have anything to do with these attacks. The terrorists and extremists who were involved in these attacks donâ€™t belong to any particular country. In fact such people are everywhere now. What they want is to create panic; they want to create misunderstandings among the countries.
India should not accuse Pakistan of the terrorism which prevailed in Mumbai. And if any case, war will broke among the countries, then the entire world should know that Pakistanis are united, they are one. Donâ€™t forget the war of 1965 when people, instead of getting scared and not leaving their houses, were on the streets. I still visualize the images which I was told by my grandparents regarding the war. Many people of Lahore with their minute weapons moved towards the Wagah border. They had no proper weapon but they were more than willing to die for their country. They were patriotic then and they are patriotic now. Pakistan is our motherland and we will do whatever we can, to save our country.
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saurabh — first and foremost, that post of yours was garbage.
Youre another jingoistic indian who thinks he is on top of the world. Are you a slumdog dalit or a shoe-polishing jaat? LoL.
You come from the only country in the entire world where state-sponsored caste system exists. You may be proud about a few billionares (which by the way is a very rhetorical line I hear from blindly patriotic indian like yourself) but what about the people in rural areas?
You are aware that majority of indians live in rural areas and most of them dont even have access to toilets or any form of sanitation.
Anyways lets break down this garbage you posted.
1.: Its true that good fences make good neighbors. But then again, the developments in pakistan force us to see beyond those fences, because the terrorists who are killing paki citizens today, also pose a security threat to India. Therefore its not a domestic situation for pakistan anymore.
Setting aside the fact that many feel that it is india who is funding taleban and BLA in order to isolate Pakistan — you should also remember that many of the attackers are foreigners as well not all Pakistani. Second of all, shove your security threat up your arse. Your incompetent forces couldnt even stop 10 drugged up guys armed with AK47s.
For a country that takes false pride in calling itself a future world power, i would suggest you train your security apparatus and equip them with something a bit better than a .303 world war II era junk.
Please keep the fences shut. Keep HIV/AIDS contained within your own dalit boundaries. LOLL. 40% of your country is in dire poverty, you have the worlds largest HIV rate. According to the United Nations Population Division projection, by year 2019 â€“ 1.9% of indian population will be infected with the Virus — and with your over-crowded population, that is a LOT of people!!!!
most disturbing news.
2: There is nothing wrong in enforcing the equality of the sexes, at least we do not feel that way in India. The shri ram sena incident which you are referring to was a shameful act done by attention mongers, who got their bit from the Indian media, as well as the Indian junta. Its not like girls are flogged by the order of the day in our country, like in pakistan.
Did you ever hear me say theres anything wrong with it? Or are you just putting words in my mouth. The sriram sena incident and incidents like it will keep recurring in india i think. Your bollywood culture (i am no subsciber) is teaching girls to dress like whores and whiten their skin with powder just to look european.
Girls dont get flogged in Pakistan. If you are referring to what SUPPOSEDLY happened in Swat, even the residents are going out on record and saying the area in the footage is not Swat, and this incident never happened.
But I do know that 5000-70000 indian citizens of Orissa are refugees in their own country just because they are christians.
We have the taleban issue….but you have those nutcase BJP-hindutva terrorists. I wonder what indias 150 million Muslims are saying about Varun Gandu….I mean Gandhiâ€™s statements.
Attack on Indian Christians worries Pope
Hindu Holy war strikes in India: 35 Christians killed and 50,000 forced from their homes
More Christians killed in India violence
Churches burnt as Hindu extremists wage anti-Christian violence hits eastern India
Six more churches burn in India
India’s Muslims in Crisis
Come on man, you do not/should not be be jealous of your progressive neighbor.
You see, thatâ€™s your problem. You can only debate using ad-hominom attacks. Rest-assured, not only am I not jealous india. I thank God everyday that I am Pathaan, and that even before partition i had NOTHING to do with hindustan.
POINT 3: Agreed that in India there have been atrocities committed against minorities at times, but the courts are open and impartial here, unlike in pakistan, where judges are removed at the whims and fancies of the governments/dictators
I agree. Which is why the long march, the re-instatement of CJ and other judges, and other measures are welcomed. Things have changed in Pakistan. Our country used to be more peaceful, we never had this problem of suicide bombers in our country. Never.
But at the same rate, we have never had mass civil movements on the scale that we do now; a plethora of NGOs and human rights groups/civil society organizations (which are doing many wonderful things that of course go unreported); free media (which isnt sensationalist garbage like indian)
We are facing security threats which have unfortunately made their way to the big cities. You would think that this would justify a coup and/or martial law. But even our Chief of Army Staff has said that he wants to let the democratic/reconciliatory process prevail in Pakistan. Just 20 years ago, that would have been UNHEARD of. I sometimes wish the Army would take over, but even people like myself realize that democracy is the best way forward in the country.
We are, after all, the first Muslim country to have women in parliament, judiciary, ministerial and leadership roles. In fact, we even have women pilots in Pakistan Air Force, Army, Special Services Group, Rangers, as well as other units.
The samjhauta train case has not been concluded by the courts. Do not be hasty in assuming its conclusion (BTW, why does every paki talk of samjahuta blast case, and not of the godhra train fire???).
What kind of stupid question is that???? We are still enraged about it. Thatâ€™s why. Why does every hindustani and the holy cows talk about mumbai 24/7?
Shaumjota express blast was serious. Over 65 Pakistani citizens were killed in your country. And it was your Army officials who were responsible. Ä°ndian did standard practice and blamed the mighty mighty ISI —-only to have the blame come back in their dalit faces. And for the record, what was the supposed â€˜â€™conclusionâ€™â€™ of that case??? Please share, indian..
POINT 4: Lets talk about fragility. What constitutes fragility in a nationâ€¦.
Sure……it would entail a scenario like yours — where 100s of armed seperatist/rebel groups thrive. Where caste and faith-based differences easily lead to riots and mass murders. You will see that when u have people like Varun Gandu…I mean Gandi, your so-called democracy and fake-secularism will be under threat.
Why would indian nationals help terrorists carry out the bollywood attacks of november? Problem is, india is just wayy too over-crowded. There will always be people who are bitter and anti-nation. =)
Military (lets not even start comparing the numbers there. Would just like to mention here that this year Indiaâ€™s defense budget is in excess of USD 20 billion). So India being fragile is out of question. On the other hand, pakistan, I believe, is pretty fragile. It was proved by India in 1971, and your own home bred paki jehadis are proving it now.
So? That isnt much, given the size of the country. If you look at the way its being spent, its mostly going to russians for 3rd class used naval carriers, failed missile projects (what happened to arjun tank?? Lol ) failed aircraft project and a few other bozo moves. Because of in-efficiency, your Defence Procurement officials are the laughter of the universe. From 2004-2008 alone we have boosted and added many force multipliers to our ground forces/navy/Air Force and mechanized units.
Oh, by the way —-
experts said a slow bureaucratic process could delay modernisation of the world’s fourth largest military.
The latest increase was above inflation but defence analysts said spending had fallen below 2 percent of GDP for the first time in at least a decade due to fiscal pressures
Things have changed since 1971. This has already been acknowledged by your own officials. Why do you think after mumbai, indian defence lobbyists were going (literally) to all ass-ends of the corner (France, Germany, Brazil, Sweden, Ukraine etc.) of the world to countries we have strong defence ties with —-and they were trying to convince them not to sell us arms and equipment. Do you know how much success that brought you?
Upon request, I will tell you full detail of how we have modernized all branches of our armed forces. Your own generals say that india is not prepared to take on Pakistan —which is why the indian drame-queens could only talk about surgical strikes but never deliver. It was pretty funny and everyone was laughing at you.
Here are some issues for you to ponder on…..do look at them before you drink your cow-urine soda (which was recently introduced to indian consumer market)
1.Please don’t confuse vicious Indian/Hindu propaganda as world opinion.
2. Name a single Taliban holding any political or government office in Pakistan. On the other hand I can name thousands of Hindu extremists (BJP + RSS) in every level of politics and government offices. e.g. the bigot Modi.
3. Don’t forget, on numerous occasions these Hindu terrorists have embarked on blood orgies by massacring hundreds of thousands of hapless Muslims, Sikhs, Christian and Dalits.
4. Don’t forget, on numerous occasions these Hindu terrorists have publicly announced their plans to destroy Pakistan and cleanse India from Muslims, Sikhs, Christian and Dalits.
5. Give me a single name of any Hindu extremist who was convicted for massacring and ethnically cleansing the Muslims, Sikhs, Christian and Dalits.
So why don’t you give a rest to your hypocrisy. Make those cow gods proud of you!! haha
att Saurabh: Please read the following letter in The Hindu of 19 March 2009:
“The article has pointed out the stark difference between the poor and the millionaires. It is shocking to learn that 836 million Indians live on less than Rs.20 a day and over 200 million get even less. Unfortunately, peopleâ€™s issues find only a minuscule space in the media. The priorities of the second-fastest-growing-economy are now elections, nothing else. But there are many areas in which we are sure to be among the top, besides the list of the worldâ€™s 500 poorest people â€” bureaucratic corruption, the number of citizens killing time watching cricket and cinema, and the number of godmen being some of them.
This letter was published under the title “HDI rankings” according to which India has fallen to 132 in the new rankings of the United Nations Human Development Index. Even Cuba and Vietnam are better than India!
@ lakhani: I, personally, do not know who is responsible for the assam blasts. Well shakir, India is a huge country, comprising of lots of communities. So difference of opinions exist. The government is not sitting with its hands folded in front of these separatist terrorists. But change takes time. Also, where the hell didya get the figure of 836 million – 20 rs? Not the correct figure, but nevertheless there is widespread poverty in india cuz we have a huge population, and there is a lot of pressure on all institutions. The government cannot, after all start distributing money on the road to random people, can it? What it can do is to generate employment. Very recently, the government decided to invest Rs 30,000 crore (USD 6.5 bn) in the Rural Landless Employment Generation Programme (RLEGP). Nevertheless, to cut the story short, India is fast improving in the poverty index. Have you seen the Fortune 500 index (richest people)? Answer me this, how many indians do you see in the top ten? Any pakis there?
@ Lt Gen Ayub Sh*t: POINT 1.: Its true that good fences make good neighbors. But then again, the developments in pakistan force us to see beyond those fences, because the terrorists who are killing paki citizens today, also pose a security threat to India. Therefore its not a domestic situation for pakistan anymore. POINT 2: There is nothing wrong in enforcing the equality of the sexes, at least we do not feel that way in India. The shri ram sena incident which you are referring to was a shameful act done by attention mongers, who got their bit from the Indian media, as well as the Indian junta. Its not like girls are flogged by the order of the day in our country, like in pakistan. Come on man, you do not/should not be be jealous of your progressive neighbor. POINT 3: Agreed that in India there have been atrocities committed against minorities at times, but the courts are open and impartial here, unlike in pakistan, where judges are removed at the whims and fancies of the governments/dictators. If someone is found guilty by the procedure established by law, the same person would be punished, he would not be able to overthrow the judiciary, like it happens in pakistan. Just a point id like to mention here – The samjhauta train case has not been concluded by the courts. Do not be hasty in assuming its conclusion (BTW, why does every paki talk of samjahuta blast case, and not of the godhra train fire???). You see in civilized countries, we have a system of law. the system says that you are innocent unless proven guilty. POINT 4: Lets talk about fragility. What constitutes fragility in a nationâ€¦.let me enlighten you upon that – its the economy (paki economy is down and out, Indiaâ€™s is one of the few still growing well, in spite of the recession), political situation (India – stable democracy; pakistan – past of multiple coups, nobody fucking knows whoâ€™s in charge!), Military (lets not even start comparing the numbers there. Would just like to mention here that this year Indiaâ€™s defense budget is in excess of USD 20 billion). So India being fragile is out of question. On the other hand, pakistan, I believe, is pretty fragile. It was proved by India in 1971, and your own home bred paki jehadis are proving it now.
@ Saurabh, who do you think is responsible for the bomb blasts in Assam yesterday? Why don’t you ask your government why it can’t control the separatists in your own country? What’s the use of your huge defence budget when 836 million slumdog Indians earn less than twenty rupees (forty cents)a day?
Hey dalit…..listen carefully.
While I dont doubt that india has better arms control than heavily-armed Pakistan —it still doesnt hide the fact that there are five to six-thousand christians who have been either slaughtered or displaced in Orissa State. Your hindutva mobs dont need pistols or Mp-5s to wreak havoc. We saw it recently when your (loose) indian girls were getting thrashed like goats by srirama sena mobs.
â€˜â€™Pakisâ€™â€™ sounding more like terrorists? Why? Because we tell you dalits to mind your own business? I have said it before and I will say it again. Good fences make good neighbours. Stay out of our business and our affairs, and we will stay out of yours. You indians live by herd mentality. Give a hindu even a vestige of power and he will abuse it.
I welcome Mehsuds empty threat. Ä°snt he the same man who was trying to claim responsibility for a shooting in Upstate New York? He is a dangerous man, but he hasnt managed to scare Pakistanis. People are angry, not scared. Therefore, his days will be numbered. Taleban ideology doesnt even represent Pakistan.
As for drones â€“they are getting support from Pakistan govt. And if you do research, you would see that there are more local supporters for the drones than opponents. I myself am from tribal areas —and I am happy when I hear news that another taleban hideout was wiped out by Pakistan Army or by predators.
Your country is much more fragile. So you should be careful and clean up your own house first. You have your own fair share of seperatist/rebel/extremist groups. Shaumjota train blasts and other vicious attacks (which you initially blamed on ISI, but they ended up being indian-army/BJP sponsored) are signs of it.
Go enjoy your cow urine soda. I heard its a big hit in brahministan
@ Lt Gen Ayub Sh*t: There is something called effective arms control in India, a concept which you’re not aware of in pakistan. Also, with the current state of government coffers in pakistan, you cant even fund the food you have to eat, forget about investing in arms. Again, prioritize. you know, most pakis on foums like these have started sounding more and more like terrorists. Hmm… thats a thought. btw, I hope you saw todays headlines – Mehsud has said that he would carry out two attacks per week in pakistan, so buckle up kiddo. Apart from the US drones, even the taliban is gunning for ur behinds.